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Saul Paul Sirag Interview - Thinking Alowed

Saul Paul Sirag takes us through many of the ideas and principles that Robert Anton Wilson explored in both his fiction, and non-fiction. Physics and Consciousness.

I was lucky to also interview Saul in San Francisco, 18 years ago.

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RAW and PHYSICS CONSCIOUSNESS RESEARCH GROUP (RAW Illumination)

From http://www.rawillumination.net/

Michael Johnson annotates the new book

[If you missed it, Michael Johnson posted a long comment to Sunday's blog post about How the Hippies Saved Physics, which is literally all about the offbeat physicists in the Bay Area who greatly influenced RAW's thinking. Michael's comment is a useful annotation to the must-read book of the summer, so I am reposting it here everyone will see it -- Tom]

The Physics-Consciousness Research Group. See:

Illuminati Papers: 32 (diagram of "context-dependent language model of Nick Herbert); 56 ( Sarfatti on ETI contactees); pp.94-103

Leary's Info-Psychology: 33 (and 8th circuit); 49 (note Sarfatti in context); 129-131 (written by Nick Herbert)

Cosmic Trigger 2: 257 (Back To The Future best artistic expression of quantum logic: Sarfatti model fro Chris Lloyd); 267-268

Schrodinger's Cat Trilogy: 242 & 314, 426-427 (Herbert's QUIP); 274 (Capra's Tao of Physics); 343-344 (Sarfatti); 345-346 (Sirag's General Field Theory); 540-545

Trajectories May 1982 and Fall 1984: Nick Herbert and Bell's Theorem

Gnosis, Winter 1988-89:(Sarfatti and Faster-Than-Light ideas FTL); Edwin Harris Walker

Coincidance: 153-155 (Walker, Honegger, Sarfatti)

Semiotext(E) SF: 70-72 (Nick Herbert's wild particle physics story that includes RU Sirius)

Omni, Dec, 1979, "UFO Update" (Sirag's conjecture about time travellers)

Prometheus Rising: acknowledgment page: Sirag, Sarfatti, Herbert, who "clarified (RAW's) whole comprehension of epistemology;" 41 (and 8CB model); 183 (Barbara Honegger: cave paintings & 5th circuit yogic/shamanic brain: 30K yrs ago); 204 (Honegger's theory of synchroncity); 267-269 (Bell's Theorem and Sarfatti, et.al)

Mavericks of the Mind: 67-88 (Nick Herbert); 124 (Honegger); 125 (Walker)

Chaos and Beyond: 232-235 (review of Fred Alan Wolf's Eagle's Quest)

Everything Is Under Control: 138 (Sarfatti)

New Libertarian magazine Interview, 4/10-77: two pages on magick and quantum mechanics. Sarfatti as the head of the PCRG. RAW recommends Space-Time and Beyond, by Bob Toben, but Sarfatti says the ideas are his?

for another view of Sarfatti, see him as a North Beach denizen (San Francisco) in Herbert Gold's book on Behemia

Email To The Universe: 41 (Capra and Herbert); 244 (group mentioned); 223 (Mishlove might have been PCRG)

Michael Hollingshead interview (High Times?): RAW says he's the PCRG's "chief literary spokesman;" RAW talks about physicists who've used LSD

Wilhelm Reich In Hell: 33 (Capra and "fundamental holism")

see Sarfatti in Imaginary Weapons, pp.11-14

see Kripal's book on Esalen: 291-314 (Capra, Stapp, Sarfatti, F.A. Wolf, Nick Hergbert, Gary Zukav)

New Libertarian mag, RAW interview, 9/5/76: RAW recommends recent issue of Spit In The Ocean, for Sirag and Sarfatti on quantum consciousness Sarfatti as a "skeptical contactee"

Eight Circuit Brain by Antero Alli: 293-294 (mentions Saraffti and Sirag at RAW's salons in Berkeley hills, 1979)

I could list more if anyone's innarested.

Were they related to the SRI group with Targ and Puhoff: Scientologists? Who funded them? What role might Werner Erhard have played? How close was Ira Einhorn to the group?

How influential was Stapp? How did Barbara Honegger make it into the Reagan Administration? She wrote the first book titled October Surprise.

RAW had mentioned a few times that he sometimes played with the idea that he had been a "useful idiot" to the CIA or some other group.

http://www.rawillumination.net/

RAW V.A.L.I.S JOYCE & HOLO-GRAMIC PROSE?

"One great part of every human existence is passed in a state which cannot be rendered sensible by the use of wideawake language, cutanddry grammar and goahead plot. --JAMES JOYCE, Referring to Finnegans Wake in a letter to Harriet Shaw Weaver (1926-11-24)"

I have a playman's or better yet ploughman's interest in physics, science and the paranormal, once again due for the most part to Dr. Robert Anton Wilson.

I was fortunate to meet many of the bright characters from the Berkeley Based Physics Consciousness Research Institute, where RAW was a somewhat regular alumni, with an irregular illumi.

I recently joined the new and improved http://www.stardrive.org/ a surprisingly interactive website hosted by Jack Sarfatti and friends, and a site I would suggest anyone interested in the physics-consciousness oriented writing of Robert Anton Wilson pay a visit. My interview with equally brilliant and Maverick thinker - Saul Paul Sirag - has been linked from said website to my surprise.

Here I'll simply contribute a number of papers available, or excerpts, that I feel help frame my interpretation of some of the content at stardrive.org and compare with some of the RAW's interpretations, if I may be so bold.

Philip K. Dick writes:

"Someday I'm going to get my artricle published; I'm going to prove that Finnegans Wake is an information pool based on computer memory systems that didn't exist until centuries after James Joyce's era; that Joyce was plugged into a cosmic consciousness from which he derived the inspiration for his entire corpus of work. I'll be famous forever. --Philp K. Dick, The Divine Invasion.

Robert Anton Wilson writes:

"As Bucky Fuller was quick to point out, the development of Information Theory by Shannon and Weiner enables us to see the human mind as the greatest synergy-machine, the greatest tool for doing-more-with-less, in this part of the universe.

Fuller points out that knowledge can only increase (except for tragedies like brain damage in an individual or totalitarianism in a society.) As our communication skills and information processing improve, human knowledge as a whole accelerates synergistically. Therefore, both hard and soft technologies accelerate – ideas and tools both change faster, faster, faster.--Robert Anton Wilson"

Please excuse the age and mixed context of these google-book I-FRAME presentations. Yet acting as a great resource and hub of helpful footnotes and research, we hope.

Gravitation and cosmology: from the Hubble radius to the Planck scale ...
By Richard L. Amoroso, Jean-Pierre Vigier, Geoffrey Hunter

The singularity is near: when humans transcend biology
By Ray Kurzweil

Developments in quantum physics.
By Frank H. Columbus

Our Superstring Universe: Strings, Branes, Extra Dimensions and Superstring ...
By Jr. L. E. Lewis

Explorations beyond the machine: a philosophy of social science for the post ...
By Ian Trevor King

Extreme Physics
By Scientific American (COR), Rosen Publishing Group

Cosmic catastrophes: exploding stars, black holes, and mapping the universe
By J. Craig Wheeler

And now, what I feel is one of the most important ingrediants to making star Trek real; Finnegans Wake by James Joyce and HOLOGRAMIC PROSE.

The Books at the Wake: A Study of Literary Allusions in James Joyce's ...
By James S. Atherton

AND FINALLY, FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Holographic principle:

The holographic principle is a property of quantum gravity and string theories which states that the description of a volume of space can be thought of as encoded on a boundary to the region—preferably a light-like boundary like a gravitational horizon. First proposed by Gerard 't Hooft, it was given a precise string-theory interpretation by Leonard Susskind.

In a larger and more speculative sense, the theory suggests that the entire universe can be seen as a two-dimensional information structure "painted" on the cosmological horizon, such that the three dimensions we observe are only an effective description at macroscopic scales and at low energies. Cosmological holography has not been made mathematically precise, partly because the cosmological horizon has a finite area and grows with time.^[1]^[2]

The holographic principle was inspired by black hole thermodynamics, which implies that the maximal entropy in any region scales with the radius squared, and not cubed as might be expected. In the case of a black hole, the insight was that the description of all the objects which have fallen in can be entirely contained in surface fluctuations of the event horizon. The holographic principle resolves the black hole information paradox within the framework of string theory. --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle

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Ω	U+03A9	ORSON	Represents Orson Welles, illusion, deception, the power of narrative, and the cinematic gaze, presented in a screenplay-like format.
μ	U+00B5	MCLUHAN	Represents Marshall McLuhan, media as extensions of man, the global village, and "the medium is the message."
⧗	U+29D7	NARBY	Represents Jeremy Narby, the "Cosmic Serpent," DNA, the intelligence of nature, and stereoscopic thinking.
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🆃	U+1F183	SINCLAIR/KEROUAC	Represents John Sinclair, his be-bop poetry, activism, and the counterculture, as well as Jack Kerouac, and his spontaneous prose.
🆅	U+1F185	OLSON	Represents Charles Olson, his approach to Projective Verse and open form poetry.
🅿	U+1F17F	PRATT	Represents Tanmoy's personal experiences and insights as a DJ, musician, and observer of the world, emphasizing the "Tale of the Tribe."
🜛	U+1F71B	THOTH	Represents the Thoth Tarot, Aleister Crowley, the broader occult and Hermetic traditions, and Lon Milo DuQuette.
⊕	U+2295	GINSBERG	Represents Allen Ginsberg, his raw and visionary style, social and political critiques, and exploration of spirituality and sensuality.
⎅	U+2385	TOTT	Represents the unique, experimental layout and style of the poem, combining elements of concrete poetry, visual design, and digital textuality.